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Ray Aldred

Interesting post. I think I agree with the worry that Noё fails to account for disabled people when he expresses his concern about student liberties. I had to read the article again to see if he really knowingly and willfully puts aside considerations of disabled students, and you are right! He does indeed literally put them aside, which is pretty disappointing. I'm not sure that his view entails that the basic structure of a just classroom is determined first, then the needs of disabled students considered later, even if he appears to think this. Perhaps worries about a just classroom can be inclusive of disabled students, and considerations of disabled students can be a contributory reason to the overall case he wants to make. That is, it seems to me that Noё shouldn't put aside requirements for disabled students, because these considerations makes his case much stronger!

Shelley Tremain

Hi Ray!

I certainly agree with you that Alva Noe should not put aside the requirements of disabled students. Note that my idea that Noe suggests that the basic structure of the classroom can be worked out first and the requirements of disabled students can be added later goes right back to Rawls's idea that the people in the original position can work out the basis structure of society and leave aside until later issues that include the requirements of disabled people.

I think that you're correct that Noe's own case would be stronger were he to take into account the considerations of disabled students. It seems to me, however, that to do so within his current framework would require that the (basic?) needs of disabled students be construed as liberties.

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